INFO-VAX Mon, 14 May 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 264 Contents: Re: For Sue - HP Proliant Server Problems Re: For Sue - HP Proliant Server Problems Re: For Sue - HP Proliant Server Problems Re: How to reset X-window Re: How to reset X-window Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 May 22 Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 May 22 M Re: PID for detached process. Re: PID for detached process. Re: PID for detached process. Re: Recovering a Very Old Backup Saveset Re: Shouldn't we be helping HP ? Re: Shouldn't we be helping HP ? Re: SYSMAN problem Re: TCPIP 5.4 ECO 6: any problems? text to graphics conv tool Re: text to graphics conv tool Re: VMS Audio Update - Episode #9 available... Re: VT200 emulation under Mac OS X Re: VT200 emulation under Mac OS X Re: Weekly Boot Camp Update ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 07:24:17 -0600 From: "Michael D. Ober" Subject: Re: For Sue - HP Proliant Server Problems Message-ID: <46486302$0$505$815e3792@news.qwest.net> No - I suspect our spam filters snagged it. However, John Summers, the HP Support Manager for the region that includes Tulsa, OK called. We have an installation ticket opened - hopefully all the parts will arrive back in Tulsa today - for an install on Thursday. If you passed this on to him, thank you. If John monitors this NG as well, I still thank you for taking the time to respond. I also got an email from Arlen Williams at EDS in Tulsa. Thank you for your offer to assist. HP has put too many gatekeepers between their customers and tech support and it's a shame we have to bypass them completely. When the survey comes in, I'll give the folks here and in the actual tech support very high ratings, but blast the gatekeepers. Now, who do we complain to that outsourcing the gatekeepers to Costa Rica is a lousy idea. It's interesting that both Wal-Mart and Dell started bringing their North American customer support back to North America after Randy Mott left those two companies. Mike Ober. "Sue" wrote in message news:1179105680.310926.193290@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > On May 9, 12:41 pm, "Michael D. Ober" > wrote: >> Sue, >> >> Since January, we have been attempting to purchase a RAID 5 subsystem for >> a >> Proliant ML110G4 server. The configuration was to be 3 x 500GB internal >> SATA Drives with a E200B Raid controller plus the cables required to >> connect >> them. The first time, the wrong drives were sent with no cables (Case >> #3218708870 & 3218583632). HP reluctantly agreed to replace the drives >> with >> the correct drives. The cable that was sent was the wrong cable. Today, >> we >> received "replacement cables", but instead of a single cable that >> connects >> to the E200B controller (part # 411508-B21) with multiple SATA drives >> (Part >> #404469-B21), they were four distinct SATA cables. Note that all >> purchases, >> including the server, have been directly from HP. >> >> The cables we have received so far are Part #413957-001 (Controller to >> multiple drives) and four cables Part #430542-001 (single controller to >> single drive). >> >> In addition, since the server is in a remote site (Tulsa, OK), I asked >> how >> much it would cost to have HP install this subsystem as was told that HP >> would not install it - it was user installable. I have no one in Tulsa >> who >> can install or maintain hardware, which is why the server has a 3 year >> next >> business day CarePaq. >> >> Mike Ober >> Sr Systems Engineer, >> Wakefield & Associates, Inc. >> 303-537-2900 x6715 >> mailto:m...@wakeassoc.com > > Mike did you see my email? > Sue > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:42:38 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: For Sue - HP Proliant Server Problems Message-ID: <00A679AD.D1765A8C@SendSpamHere.ORG> In article <46486302$0$505$815e3792@news.qwest.net>, "Michael D. Ober" writes: {...snip...} >Now, who do we complain to that outsourcing the gatekeepers to Costa Rica is >a lousy idea. Not for the former banana and coffee bean pickers in Costa Rica. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 10:57:44 -0600 From: "Michael D. Ober" Subject: Re: For Sue - HP Proliant Server Problems Message-ID: <46489509$0$10304$815e3792@news.qwest.net> As an HP customer, I really don't care who handles my tech support calls as long as I can understand them on the phone and they can get the job done. Until I posted last week, neither was occurring. Therefore, my assessment of using Costa Rica for telephone support is a long term lose/lose situation. Customers lose the HP support they were accustomed to and HP loses customers when they are ready to replace their existing equipment. Oh, and by the way, when the latter happens, the "banana and coffee bean pickers" will be out of a job because their former job has now been taken by someone else. Mike Ober. wrote in message news:00A679AD.D1765A8C@SendSpamHere.ORG... > In article <46486302$0$505$815e3792@news.qwest.net>, "Michael D. Ober" > writes: > {...snip...} >>Now, who do we complain to that outsourcing the gatekeepers to Costa Rica >>is >>a lousy idea. > > Not for the former banana and coffee bean pickers in Costa Rica. > > -- > VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker > VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM > > "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 07:28:15 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: How to reset X-window Message-ID: <95XYfZtdTvBR@eisner.encompasserve.org> In article , "Tom Linden" writes: > PuTTY SSH window on W2K to Alpha 7.3 ran program with garbage output to > display causing it to go into funny state, printing odd chars. It is a > simple enough matter to kill the display and open a new one, but is there > a way to reset it? It appears that characters have been remapped. I assume you mean graphics characters on the PuTTY terminal output? The standard reset sequence is [!p, where you replace the string with an escape characer. This is case sensitive. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 14:44:25 +0200 From: Joseph Huber Subject: Re: How to reset X-window Message-ID: Bob Koehler wrote: > In article , "Tom Linden" writes: > >> PuTTY SSH window on W2K to Alpha 7.3 ran program with garbage output to >> display causing it to go into funny state, printing odd chars. It is a >> simple enough matter to kill the display and open a new one, but is there >> a way to reset it? It appears that characters have been remapped. > > I assume you mean graphics characters on the PuTTY terminal output? > > The standard reset sequence is [!p, where you replace the string > with an escape characer. This is case sensitive. > My Linux putty simply has a "reset terminal" entry in the menu popup menu invoked by CTRL+mousebutton3 . Doesn't Windows putty have a similar entry in a pull-down menu ? -- Joseph Huber - http://www.huber-joseph.de ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:48:31 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 Message-ID: <00A679AE.A3BA0905@SendSpamHere.ORG> In article , JF Mezei writes: {...snip...} >Blade Runner is about robots that get killed when they outlast their >programmed lifetime/warrantee. (if I remember correctly). VMS marketing robots? -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 12:23:21 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 May 22 Message-ID: William Webb wrote: > I'm not so sure that Blade Runner is such a good selection. > Remember, OpenVMS turns 30 this year... Blade Runner != Logan's Run. Blade Runner was shot in HongKong, Logan's Run was shot in a newly built shopping centre in Texas if I remember correctly. Logan's Run is the one where a LED on people's hands lights up when they reach 30 years of age and they must be disposed of. Blade Runner is about robots that get killed when they outlast their programmed lifetime/warrantee. (if I remember correctly). ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 08:00:29 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 Message-ID: In article <00A67742.342AB9A6@SendSpamHere.ORG>, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: > > I have a library of convert DVDs I still haven't watched. I think I'd > enjoy that more than any movie. I do, however, hope it is better than > the Star Wars thing which I still haven't seen to conclusion. I bought > it because the kids wanted it. I usually get as far as the first sight- > ing of the little beeping trash bin on wheels and then lose it. How is > it so popular? Clearly the Dark Force has clouded your mind. Think of it not as a beeping trash bin (that IS a Dalek), but rather as a self propelled Guinness keg, complete with hyper-fine temperature control. And ignore the other stuff he serves on Jaba's barge, he was incognito. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 06:49:41 -0400 From: "William Webb" Subject: Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 Message-ID: <8660a3a10705140349l32fdc795xefa14e720427dd96@mail.gmail.com> On 5/11/07, Doug Kimball wrote: > Thanks for your opinions, lists, and witty repartee. It was very helpful! > > And the winners are: > > 1) Blade Runner - the top vote-getter, and why not? A sci-fi classic. > > Tied for second (or is that third?): > > 2.5) Sneakers > 2.5) Galaxy Quest > > If you'd like the chance to win one of these movies or a DVD player to play > them on, come to the HP Partners' Roundhouse on Tuesday, May 22 from 6 pm to > 9 pm at the Sheraton in Nashua, stop by the Software Partners' table, and > drop off your business card. > > And remember, > > "I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved > life more than he ever had before. Not just his life, anybody's life, my > life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I > come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit > there and watch him die." > > "But the key meeting took place July 3rd, 1958, when the Air Force brought > the space visitor to the White House for an interview with President > Eisenhower. And Ike said, 'Hey look, give us your technology, we'll give you > all the cow lips you want.'" > > "Quellek... by Grabthar's hammer... by the Sons of Warvan... you shall be... > avenged." > > Doug > > -- > Doug Kimball > Manager, Sales and Support > Software Partners, Inc. > 978-887-6409 > tech_support@softwarepartners.com > www.softwarepartners.com > > > I'm not so sure that Blade Runner is such a good selection. Remember, OpenVMS turns 30 this year... WWWebb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:52:19 +0000 (UTC) From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk Subject: Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 Message-ID: In article <8660a3a10705140349l32fdc795xefa14e720427dd96@mail.gmail.com>, "William Webb" writes: >On 5/11/07, Doug Kimball wrote: >> Thanks for your opinions, lists, and witty repartee. It was very helpful! >> >> And the winners are: >> >> 1) Blade Runner - the top vote-getter, and why not? A sci-fi classic. >> >> Tied for second (or is that third?): >> >> 2.5) Sneakers >> 2.5) Galaxy Quest >> >> If you'd like the chance to win one of these movies or a DVD player to play >> them on, come to the HP Partners' Roundhouse on Tuesday, May 22 from 6 pm to >> 9 pm at the Sheraton in Nashua, stop by the Software Partners' table, and >> drop off your business card. >> >> And remember, >> >> "I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved >> life more than he ever had before. Not just his life, anybody's life, my >> life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I >> come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit >> there and watch him die." >> >> "But the key meeting took place July 3rd, 1958, when the Air Force brought >> the space visitor to the White House for an interview with President >> Eisenhower. And Ike said, 'Hey look, give us your technology, we'll give you >> all the cow lips you want.'" >> >> "Quellek... by Grabthar's hammer... by the Sons of Warvan... you shall be... >> avenged." >> >> Doug >> >> -- >> Doug Kimball >> Manager, Sales and Support >> Software Partners, Inc. >> 978-887-6409 >> tech_support@softwarepartners.com >> www.softwarepartners.com >> >> >> >I'm not so sure that Blade Runner is such a good selection. >Remember, OpenVMS turns 30 this year... > Are you perhaps confusing Blade Runner with Logan's Run ? In Logan's Run on your 30th birthday you had to participate in Carousal where you would supposedly be "renewed". Although the replicants in Blade Runner have a limited lifespan I can't recall that being specified as 30 years (indeed I think it was more like a 4 year lifespan). David Webb Security team leader CCSS Middlesex University David Webb Security team leader CCSS Middlesex University >WWWebb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 13:22:35 -0400 From: norm.raphael@metso.com Subject: Re: Movie Promo for HP Partners Roundhouse in Nashua on Tuesday, May 22 May 22 M Message-ID: RmlsbSBSZXZpZXcgaW4gTWF5IDEwLCAyMDA3IGlzc3VlIG9mIFdvcmNlc3RlciBNYWdhemluZS4g QnkgY29pbmNpZGVuY2UgaXQNCnJpZ2h0IG9uIHRoaXMgdG9waWMuDQoNCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cud29y Y2VzdGVybWFnYXppbmUuY29tL2luZGV4LnBocD9vcHRpb249Y29tX2NvbnRlbnQmdGFzaz1ibG9n Y2F0ZWdvcnkmaWQ9MjAmSXRlbWlkPTMyDQoNCkNhZ2UgYWNjb3JkaW5nIHRvIFBoaWxpcCBLLiBE aWNrDQpOZXh0DQoNCg0KQnkgRGF2aWQgV2lsZG1hbg0KDQoNCldpdGggYW4gaW1wcmVzc2l2ZSBm aWxtIG9ldXZyZSB0aGF0IGluY2x1ZGVzIG1hc3RlcnBpZWNlcyBsaWtlIEJsYWRlDQpSdW5uZXIs IE1pbm9yaXR5IFJlcG9ydCBhbmQgQSBTY2FubmVyIERhcmtseSBhcyB3ZWxsIGFzIGdvb2QgYXR0 ZW1wdHMgbGlrZQ0KUGF5Y2hlY2sgYW5kIGNvbXBsZXRlIG5vbnNlbnNlIGxpa2UgVG90YWwgUmVj 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Message-ID: In article , koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes: > In article , briggs@encompasserve.org writes: >> >> Why in the world would you want to use $DELPRC on a program that you >> just ran $CREPRC on when the spec called for you to return the PID >> as a DCL symbol and exit. > > As long as you're writing a program then formating an integer > into a hex string instead of a decimal string before calling > lib$set_symbol is a trivial difference, hardly extra work. Please tell me how the 'Image attribute helps in this regard. My point was never that converting a 32 bit VMS PID to hex is difficult. My point was that Ada's 'Image attribute does nothing useful to assist in such a conversion. It produces decimal string output (at best). And we want hex. ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 07:49:43 -0500 From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Subject: Re: PID for detached process. Message-ID: In article , briggs@encompasserve.org writes: > In article , koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes: >> In article , briggs@encompasserve.org writes: >>> >>> Why in the world would you want to use $DELPRC on a program that you >>> just ran $CREPRC on when the spec called for you to return the PID >>> as a DCL symbol and exit. >> >> As long as you're writing a program then formating an integer >> into a hex string instead of a decimal string before calling >> lib$set_symbol is a trivial difference, hardly extra work. > > Please tell me how the 'Image attribute helps in this regard. > > My point was never that converting a 32 bit VMS PID to hex is > difficult. My point was that Ada's 'Image attribute does nothing > useful to assist in such a conversion. It produces decimal string > output (at best). And we want hex. I was the person who introduced 'image to this discussion. It was in response to a comment that multiple subtypes made using Starlet difficult. It had nothing to do with stopping processes. But I do not see why you would want a hexadecimal representation within a compiled program. ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 09:13:06 -0500 From: briggs@encompasserve.org Subject: Re: PID for detached process. Message-ID: In article , Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: > In article , briggs@encompasserve.org writes: >> In article , koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes: >>> In article , briggs@encompasserve.org writes: >>>> >>>> Why in the world would you want to use $DELPRC on a program that you >>>> just ran $CREPRC on when the spec called for you to return the PID >>>> as a DCL symbol and exit. >>> >>> As long as you're writing a program then formating an integer >>> into a hex string instead of a decimal string before calling >>> lib$set_symbol is a trivial difference, hardly extra work. >> >> Please tell me how the 'Image attribute helps in this regard. >> >> My point was never that converting a 32 bit VMS PID to hex is >> difficult. My point was that Ada's 'Image attribute does nothing >> useful to assist in such a conversion. It produces decimal string >> output (at best). And we want hex. > > I was the person who introduced 'image to this discussion. > It was in response to a comment that multiple subtypes made > using Starlet difficult. It had nothing to do with stopping > processes. Yes, I understand, Larry. You had explained that previously. > But I do not see why you would want a hexadecimal representation > within a compiled program. You are the one who introduced the notion of a compiled program to create a process and capture the PID of the created process. The original poster wanted the PID in a DCL symbol. I am the one who pointed out that a PID in a DCL symbol should be in hex. Put those three together and the most obvious implementation technique has the compiled program doing a hex conversion and LIB$SET_SYMBOL. And that involves a hexadecimal representation within a compiled program. ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 07:35:17 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Recovering a Very Old Backup Saveset Message-ID: In article <0mr1i.7768$MH3.6658@newsfe4-win.ntli.net>, "Robert Jarratt" writes: > I have some very old tapes that a friendly HP person loaded on to a CD for > me a few years ago. I have finally got round to putting VMS on a SIMH > simulated Vax and I am now trying to recover the data. The CD has some BCK > files on it which I think are the raw backup savesets (created around1985), > BACKUP in OpenVMS 7.3 says that these files are not savesets, but I am sure > they are. I have opened the files in a binary editor and found the following > strings near the start of the file: > > ROB.BCK'BACKUP/REW [...]*.*.* MS:ROB.BCK/VERIFY RJ_SAGE ,àZ > /zZV3.5 > 9 _MSA0: V3.5 > Most likely the blocksize was broken when the file was copied. You can tell the CD driver to act like it has the proper blocksize by using the /undefined_fat option on the mount command. Otherwise you'll need to make a copy on a writeable disk and use "backup/repair" or "set file/attribute" to fix the file. Generally "backup/list rob.bck/save_set" will show you the original block size before it give up. ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 07:21:15 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Shouldn't we be helping HP ? Message-ID: In article , Dirk Munk writes: > david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk wrote: > > > >> If HP had ported it to x86-64 then it might make sense for someone else to >> purchase VMS presuming HP was willing to sell. However if HP had ported VMS >> to x86-64 then that would probably indicate that HP was taking VMS seriously >> and hence would not wish to sell. > > Unless I'm mistaken, I believe that the x86 architecture is lacking some > features that are essential for what is most important to OpenVMS, its > security. If I remember correctly, not all modes (kernel, supervisor > etc.) are supported. I'm sure technically more competent members in this > group will know more. You are out of date as of the first ship of 80386. Next you'll be telling us VMS only runs on VAX. ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 07:22:45 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Shouldn't we be helping HP ? Message-ID: In article , Dan Foster writes: > In article <464700EC.4080207@comcast.net>, Richard B. Gilbert wrote: >> >> You are not mistaken, at least as far as the earlier members of that >> family are concerned. The 80286, 80386, 80486 and 80586 simply don't >> have what it takes to run VMS natively. > > They've got privilege levels, but not the number of registers (or size) > needed. So, on that score, that's correct. > VAX and 80386 (and later) have 32 bit integers. VAX, Alpha, and IA-64 all have different registers,and different numbers of registers. None of this would prevent a port. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:54:41 -0600 From: "news.hp.com" Subject: Re: SYSMAN problem Message-ID: John wrote: > SCS over IP - firt thought is that IP may allow for longer distance > clusters. We already have one OpenVMS disaster-tolerant cluster customer site with a 3,000-mile site separation distance, and that's without using IP. The primary challenge in longer-distance clusters is that latency due to the speed of light over the distance may have an adverse impact on application performance as it slows down lock operations between sites and remote shadowset writes. > What is the intent of SCS over IP? Any thoughts? It is in direct response to the needs of a set of customers. Some examples: I worked with a VMS DT cluster customer in Chicago whose network folks (IP bigots) believed bridging was evil and refused to allow bridging of any sort anywhere on the metwork. After struggling with an attempt to use DLSW tunneling to carry SCS traffic over IP (that attempt resulted in high router CPU utilization and extremely-high packet latencies and thus poor cluster performance), the VMS folks finally were able to convince their network folks to give them a private lamda over DWDM which carries Gigabit Ethernet between private LAN switches for the VMS cluster. Presumably this evil set of bridges isn't allowed to be connected to the "pure" IP network, lest it be contaminated. I talked with an OpenVMS customer in Texas (where VMS has a small presence, without any clout) who had been running a multi-site cluster for a number of years but had received a declaration from the network group that all bridging in the network would be shut down in a year, killing his multi-site cluster at that time. I talked with a customer in California who had DSL service to a second site and they wished to form a disaster-tolerant cluster using systems and storage at that site. The bandwidth over DSL would be sufficient, but the only connectivity available was IP. It is to meet needs of customers like these that there is a project underway in OpenVMS Engineering (and noted in the OpenVMS Roadmap) to allow SCS communications over IP as an additional OpenVMS cluster interconnect option. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:31:48 +0200 From: Albrecht Schlosser Subject: Re: TCPIP 5.4 ECO 6: any problems? Message-ID: <31jmh4-esm.ln1@news.hus-software.de> Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote: > In article <07051214023872_202002DA@antinode.org>, sms@antinode.org > (Steven M. Schweda) writes: > >> DEC AXPVMS TCPIP_ECO V5.4-156 Patch Install 22-SEP-2006 16:11:25 0 SYSTEM >> >> So it's apparently been working for me for a while. As I recall, the >> problems involved systems which were _not_ using DNS, > > IIRC, it wasn't working if the hostname was obtained from the local > hosts database, rather than via a DNS lookup. TRUE, I ran into this problem. Be warned ! > Presumably one could do a > SHOW HOST and get the IP address and then do the ping, so it wouldn't be > a show-stopper, unless things other than ping had similar problems. I don't think that this works, and this really is of no use, if you need to resolve host names from the local host database (in a program, using standard socket calls like gethostbyname). However, there is a fix: you can use one image file from ECO 5 and replace the ECO 6 image (there has been an article on ITRC). This _one_ image file is used under two names, however: "This is a regression in the bind resolver code. The problem could be avoided if one used the $IPC_SHR.EXE image from ECO5. Of course that is an unsupported thing to do." I googled this using "itrc local host ucx eco6" (one match): http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1057983 On the production system, we didn't install ECO6, but on a test system we used this fix, and it seemed to work so far (it solved the problem). But I don't know if there are other bugs with this unsopported fix. I'm really surprised that this broken ECO is still on ITRC, although it has been discussed in the ITRC forum ... :-( :-( Albrecht ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 10:42:59 GMT From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?= Subject: text to graphics conv tool Message-ID: Hi. I think that a couple of years go I saw some tool running on VMS that took a textfile (formatted in a suitable way) and produced "business graphics" like histograms or line graphs. Right now I can find my way back to it. Any ideas ? Jan-Erik. ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 03:59:22 -0700 From: Ian Miller Subject: Re: text to graphics conv tool Message-ID: <1179140362.651283.308590@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> csvpng will create line graphs http://trendsthatmatter.com/nbu/t4-tools/index.html ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 10:47:27 -0700 From: Ian Miller Subject: Re: VMS Audio Update - Episode #9 available... Message-ID: <1179164847.022289.172160@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Downloads: over 800 so far :-) Feedback: 1 :-( ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 07:31:14 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: VT200 emulation under Mac OS X Message-ID: In article <1179007857.983851.267080@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, "vmsmangler@earthlink.net" writes: > I have 2 Digital Personal Workstations (433au,500au) plus an Imac G5 > running OS X 10.3.9. The original documentation for OS X said the > terminal emulator supported VT100 and VT200. It does indeed support > VT100 but I have never been able to get it to support VT200. > In my experience the terminal application in emulating a VT100 is broken. There are several good telnet and/or ssh tools for Mac which do a workable job of emulating a VT100. Some of them are classic apps and won't run on Intel. ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 2007 07:51:43 -0500 From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Subject: Re: VT200 emulation under Mac OS X Message-ID: In article , koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes: > In article <1179007857.983851.267080@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, "vmsmangler@earthlink.net" writes: >> I have 2 Digital Personal Workstations (433au,500au) plus an Imac G5 >> running OS X 10.3.9. The original documentation for OS X said the >> terminal emulator supported VT100 and VT200. It does indeed support >> VT100 but I have never been able to get it to support VT200. >> > > In my experience the terminal application in emulating a VT100 is > broken. That is my experience as well, tried in the Apple store within the past 3 months. For a quick test, just try to use the keypad in Notes. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 11:26:39 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: Weekly Boot Camp Update Message-ID: <00A67981.AD50B5FF@SendSpamHere.ORG> In article , "Richard Maher" writes: > > >Hi, > >To anyone attending Matt Muggeridge's A151 TCP/IP Update session: - If he >hasn't announced IPsec support by the third sentence, could you please ask >him what he's doing there and not at the keyboard? > >Don't get me wrong, failSAFE IP *is* a fantastic product, but how many times >can you keep announcing the same piece o' rope? Matt, if you're not directly No rope. Just string. No, stringettes! Yes, that's it, SIMPSON'S INDIVIDUAL STRINGETTES! The now string. Ready cut, easy to handle. Simpson's Individual Emperor Stringettes -- just the right length. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.264 ************************