INFO-VAX Fri, 20 Jul 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 394 Contents: $ SHOW DEV /MULTIPATH Output clarification Re: AWK for I64 create/term/detach error Re: create/term/detach error Re: create/term/detach error Re: Disk repair (soft / logical) Re: GNV 2.1-1 start-up nit HBA for zx2000 Re: HBA for zx2000 Re: HBA for zx2000 Re: HBA for zx2000 Re: Looking for a certain free mms- or make-like utility Re: Looking for a certain free mms- or make-like utility Re: Looking for a certain free mms- or make-like utility Re: OT: from sshmucks to the real schmucks! Re: OT: from sshmucks to the real schmucks! Re: OT: from sshmucks to the real schmucks! Re: PC EDT keypad (was EDT Replacement) Re: PC EDT keypad (was EDT Replacement) Re: symlink to another device Re: these sshmucks are at it again... Re: these sshmucks are at it again... Re: these sshmucks are at it again... Re: Upgrade from 7.3-2 to 8.3 - Copy from Disk to tape taking a long time. t Upgrade from 7.3-2 to 8.3 - Copy from Disk to tape taking a long time. time.time Re: Upgrade from 7.3-2 to 8.3 - Copy from Disk to tape taking a long time. time. VMS Audio Update - Episode 10 What is PVAX? Re: What is PVAX? Re: What is PVAX? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 05:24:14 -0700 From: andrewr@cornasys.com Subject: $ SHOW DEV /MULTIPATH Output clarification Message-ID: <1184934254.265899.200530@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Hi, I have an Alpha system with 16 Fibrechannel adapters connected to a single fibre channel fabric. When I do a $ SHOW DEVICE /MULTIPATH The output displays the available and total paths. The available and total paths is 17/17. All these seem to reflect 1 additional path. Is there a reason for this? Thanks Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:54:16 -0000 From: Galen Subject: Re: AWK for I64 Message-ID: <1184936056.207319.323830@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> I've made a few enhancements to gawk for VMS. The most significant one probably that I've got gawk's support for user-written extensions working on VMS. The other things I've done are merely tiny enhancements like using the current C RTL for functions which were missing or broken in older VMS C RTL's and hence had replacement routines in the VMS port of gawk. My slightly VMS tuned build of gawk passes all but four or five mostly Unix-related tests in the gawk test suite, so I'm confident I haven't screwed anything up. Now that I have an Alpha at home I hope to be able to make these changes available to anyone who wants them. I'll certainly mention that here on c.o.v if/when it happens. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:45:34 -0700 From: rtk Subject: create/term/detach error Message-ID: <1184949934.298012.131210@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> I'm using an AlphaServer 1000 4/200, OpenVMS 7.3-1. If I try to create a detached terminal I get this error: $ create/term/detach %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image DECW$TRANSPORT_COMMON -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file Q$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]DECW $TRANSPORT_COMMON.EXE -SYSTEM-F-PROTINSTALL, protected images must be installed $ I do know that DECwindows is not running because of a lack of resources. I get a message to that effect when I boot. It was working until I installed TCP/IP. Logically, the two problems are related. My question is, how do I fix the resource error so DECwindows starts on boot? Ron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:01:16 -0400 From: Stephen Hoffman Subject: Re: create/term/detach error Message-ID: rtk wrote: > I'm using an AlphaServer 1000 4/200, OpenVMS 7.3-1. If I try to > create a detached terminal I get this error: ... > I do know that DECwindows is not running because of a lack of > resources. I get a message to that effect when I boot. It was > working until I installed TCP/IP. > > Logically, the two problems are related. My question is, how do I fix > the resource error so DECwindows starts on boot? Without details of the boot-time messages and related, the following is a guess at how to resolve this. Perform a full AUTOGEN pass with a subsequent system reboot, and also take a look at the DECwindows-related troubleshooting details available in the OpenVMS FAQ at . The usual limits are either explicit settings in MODPARAMS.DAT (use of ADD_param or MIN_param or MAX_param is better here than using absolute settings -- if AUTOGEN wants to go higher, it can't), or that DECwindows is disabled, or that there are insufficient parameter settings. You're far enough back that there could be a It's also possible that TCP/IP and DECwindows are incompatible, as you're in the range of a transition to DECwindows V1.3; V7.3-2 and later require V1.3, while older releases use V1.2-6. There are also ECO kits for a whole bunch of stuff out, from OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-1 to TCP/IP to DECwindows... Again, without some details on the failure, it's tough to answer... -- www.HoffmanLabs.com Services for OpenVMS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:18:14 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: create/term/detach error Message-ID: <93a8$46a0eea3$cef8887a$14876@TEKSAVVY.COM> rtk wrote: > I do know that DECwindows is not running because of a lack of > resources. I get a message to that effect when I boot. It was > working until I installed TCP/IP. Unfortunatly, DECwindows checks the SYSGEN parameters when it starts up and will complain bitterly if it doesn't fit the needs for full fledged DECwindows environment. sys$manager:decw$getparams.com is the "offending" file which is invoked by the startup procedure and checks the various parameters. I think you can run it interactively and it will tell you what is wrong. You can then increase it in modparama.dat/autogen and with SYSGEN. Note that you could also edit that file to make the tests pass. If all you do from that node is to CREATE/TERM to be displayed on another xterminal, the resources that getparams wants are probably overblown. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:45:37 -0400 From: Stephen Hoffman Subject: Re: Disk repair (soft / logical) Message-ID: AEF wrote: > I thought it must have come up before as I'm using DFU 2.4, 2.6, and > 2.7-A .... > Has anyone else had this problem with DFU? Older DFU had its share of bugs. You're way back, too. DFU V3.1-1 and V3.2 are current. http://www.digiater.nl/dfu http://64.223.189.234/node/58 -- www.HoffmanLabs.com Services for OpenVMS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:05:04 -0400 From: John Reagan Subject: Re: GNV 2.1-1 start-up nit Message-ID: Craig A. Berry wrote: > I recently installed the GNV 2.1-1 kit on my XP1000, OpenVMS Alpha v8.3 > with all ECOs applied. It seemed to work fine until the next system > reboot, when SYS$UPDATE:GNV$STARTUP.COM failed with errors about the > "mnt" symbol not being defined. Thanks. The developer working on GNV (Karl) has another release coming up and I know he's made extensive changes to this area. I suspect the bug has been fixed, but I sent him your post just to be sure. -- John Reagan OpenVMS Pascal/Macro-32/COBOL Project Leader Hewlett-Packard Company ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:41:42 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: HBA for zx2000 Message-ID: In the Alphas I use Emulex LP8000, aka KGPSA-C, which are running the latest firmware. Will these work in an HP zx2000 (900MHz/1.5MB) running OpenVMS V8.3? -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:53:07 -0400 From: Stephen Hoffman Subject: Re: HBA for zx2000 Message-ID: Tom Linden wrote: > In the Alphas I use Emulex LP8000, aka KGPSA-C, which are running the > latest firmware. > Will these work in an HP zx2000 (900MHz/1.5MB) running OpenVMS V8.3? You have a Fibre Channel widget and a 900 MHz McKinley zx2000 and an interest in connecting this box to a FC SAN using OpenVMS I64 V8.3. That's more than I can say is likely available in most other localities in the known universe. (I'd be mildly surprised if anybody has even tried this particular combination.) Suggestion: try it. Post up an answer here and let us know the results of your tests. -- www.HoffmanLabs.com Services for OpenVMS ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jul 2007 12:44:44 -0500 From: brooks@cuebid.zko.hp.nospam (Rob Brooks) Subject: Re: HBA for zx2000 Message-ID: <9FFe4UX0bWJP@cuebid.zko.hp.com> "Tom Linden" writes: > In the Alphas I use Emulex LP8000, aka KGPSA-C, which are running the > latest firmware. > Will these work in an HP zx2000 (900MHz/1.5MB) running OpenVMS V8.3? Emulex fibre channel adapters are not supported on OpenVMS I64; the Qlogic ones are supported. The Emulex adapters have been known to work on the I64 systems, however. As you know already, the zx series isn't supported by OpenVMS I64, either. -- Rob Brooks MSL -- Nashua brooks!cuebid.zko.hp.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:28:49 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: HBA for zx2000 Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:53:07 -0700, Stephen Hoffman wrote: > Tom Linden wrote: >> In the Alphas I use Emulex LP8000, aka KGPSA-C, which are running the >> latest firmware. >> Will these work in an HP zx2000 (900MHz/1.5MB) running OpenVMS V8.3? > > You have a Fibre Channel widget and a 900 MHz McKinley zx2000 and an > interest in connecting this box to a FC SAN using OpenVMS I64 V8.3. > > That's more than I can say is likely available in most other localities > in the known universe. (I'd be mildly surprised if anybody has even > tried this particular combination.) > > Suggestion: try it. Post up an answer here and let us know the results > of your tests. > I will try when we complete some lengthy ongoing tests. Any special incantations needed to bring up the HBA? -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:58:36 -0000 From: IanMiller Subject: Re: Looking for a certain free mms- or make-like utility Message-ID: <1184939916.593123.148580@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> There is a port of imake on freeware V5 http://h71000.www7.hp.com/freeware/freeware50/imake/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:01:08 -0000 From: Galen Subject: Re: Looking for a certain free mms- or make-like utility Message-ID: <1184947268.473680.44890@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> On Jul 20, 9:58 am, IanMiller wrote: > There is a port of imake on freeware V5 Ian, Even as old as it is, imake might be worth a look. What I think I saw, though, was something recent that both figured out the dependencies and did the actual build. I'll have a better look at imake next week, and keep hoping something turns up on the recent tool. Galen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:27:27 -0400 From: Stephen Hoffman Subject: Re: Looking for a certain free mms- or make-like utility Message-ID: Galen wrote: > I believe that within the last month I saw a posting here or on > openvms.org for a free build utility somewhat similar to mms or make. The compilers are sometime used to generate dependencies; there's a switch for this purpose on various compilers. See /MMS_DEPENDENCY, etc. There's also the source code analysis tools and related in DECset. The format of the compiler-generated DECset code analysis files was never (AFAIK) published. I've not seen a post-processing dependency tool (other than stuff that looked at the ANA files, and I've seen a lot of that code); that task is basically building a compiler. One of the more common (free) build tools is mmk, though gmake and imake are around and also in use. -- www.HoffmanLabs.com Services for OpenVMS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:32:44 -0400 From: "John Smith" Subject: Re: OT: from sshmucks to the real schmucks! Message-ID: <3cbbd$46a0b97a$cef898e1$30732@TEKSAVVY.COM-Free> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > In article <77884$469ff84f$cef8887a$30474@TEKSAVVY.COM>, JF Mezei > writes: >> >> >> Mr Vaxman, don't feel singled out. >> >> The RIAA equivalent in Canada is now going after HAIRDRESSERS ! yes, >> they want them to pay royalties for playing music in the hair >> dressing salons. > > I don't own the radio station I listen to... a guy in San Diego does. > Listeners have suggested that the server be moved to another country. > The problem is that this is happening everywhere... the US, the UK, > you say in Canada... unless the servers are moved to Antarctica, the > probability of getting away from somebody wanting to impose usurious > fees is close to nil. At least, in Antarctica the process cooling is > cheaper! :D I don't know about internet connectivity and I'd wager a > good bet that the latency would be pretty abysmal. Maybe there's a past business model to learn from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:12:36 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: OT: from sshmucks to the real schmucks! Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 06:32:44 -0700, John Smith wrote: > VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >> In article <77884$469ff84f$cef8887a$30474@TEKSAVVY.COM>, JF Mezei >> writes: >>> >>> >>> Mr Vaxman, don't feel singled out. >>> >>> The RIAA equivalent in Canada is now going after HAIRDRESSERS ! yes, >>> they want them to pay royalties for playing music in the hair >>> dressing salons. >> >> I don't own the radio station I listen to... a guy in San Diego does. >> Listeners have suggested that the server be moved to another country. >> The problem is that this is happening everywhere... the US, the UK, >> you say in Canada... unless the servers are moved to Antarctica, the >> probability of getting away from somebody wanting to impose usurious >> fees is close to nil. At least, in Antarctica the process cooling is >> cheaper! :D I don't know about internet connectivity and I'd wager a >> good bet that the latency would be pretty abysmal. > > > Maybe there's a past business model to learn from: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand > What a fun read. -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:53:18 -0700 From: AEF Subject: Re: OT: from sshmucks to the real schmucks! Message-ID: <1184943198.232502.230090@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> On Jul 20, 7:34 am, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > In article <46A00864.2090...@comcast.net>, "Richard B. Gilbert" writes: > > >{...snip...} > >paying additional royalties for the privilege. Neither can you > >broadcast it over the radio waves or the internet without paying a > >royalty therefore. > > Therein, you are wrong. Well, not wrong but you don't know that there > is a great disparity in the royalty structure. That has been the major > premise of the IREA (Internet Radio Equity Act). Internet broadcasters > are paying higher royalty rates already than do the AM/FM and satellite > radio broadcasters. > > >Same deal with software! You can't legally use VMS without a license of > >some sort any more than you can use Windows without such a license; that > >the license normally is included in the purchase price of your PC > >doesn't mean that there isn't one. > > >If you write and sell software for a living, don't you expect to be > >paid? > > In some cases, you can't possess it with out license. > > Here's a typical example:http://tmesis.com/dllic.html > > > If you sold one copy to me and I made two copies for two friends > >without any additional payment, would you feel you had been ripped off? > > If those two friends each made two copies for for two of their > >friends. . . .? > > I have made "sampler" CDs for friends. I burn low quality MP3s and > never any from artists that I DO NOT know personally. The RIAA had > tried to thwart CD copying in the beginning by requiring CD copiers > to use special media. This was quickly proved a blunder when soft- > ware was released to rip and burn on computers using standard data > CDRs. Artists *DO* deserve to get paid for their artisitc output. > They aren't getting it from the fees collected by the RIAA. There > is nothing in this effort that make me believe it is anything more > then an attempt to control broadcast content like the large commer- > cial concerns have done with regular over-the-air broadcast radio. > > It deeply concerns me too that if they get away with forcing their > will on this aspect of the internet, what is next??? > > -- > VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM > > "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" > > http://tmesis.com/drat.html I'm with VAXMAN on this. The recording industry sucks donkey kong. AEF ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:45:18 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: PC EDT keypad (was EDT Replacement) Message-ID: <2U3oi.14$Q81.11@newsfe12.lga> I've been having a difficult time figuring out which key on my PC keyboard would map to an LK-type keyboard alternate keypad key [,] used for delete character in EDT. Any suggestions? http://www.tmesis.com/pckbd.html -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:16:05 -0700 From: Doug Phillips Subject: Re: PC EDT keypad (was EDT Replacement) Message-ID: <1184948165.794441.246630@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> On Jul 20, 9:45 am, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > I've been having a difficult time figuring out which key on my PC > keyboard would map to an LK-type keyboard alternate keypad key [,] > used for delete character in EDT. > > Any suggestions? http://www.tmesis.com/pckbd.html > > -- > VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM > > "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" > > http://tmesis.com/drat.html It looks like you're missing the WAD connector (Wallet Attachment Device.) It's a small one-sided box that changes colors rapidly. It has three cables: green, gray and black. The green connector goes into your wallet, the gray connector is a probe that you insert into your brain through your left nostril, and the black is actually an antenna that connects you to Microsoft via a satellite network. The device sucks money from your wallet and radiates your brain with Alpha-Delta wave harmonics. To map the LK [,] you just press any key and believe that you get the correct results. (note: the single [Any]-key keyboards cost a little more, but they're worth it!) My WAD connector came with my Vista lap-top but you might be able to find one on E-Bay. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:34:32 -0000 From: Pierre Subject: Re: symlink to another device Message-ID: <1184952872.198081.85630@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> I must be dumb :( I defined the POSIX root but I can not find mnt and umnt commands... are they automatically installed with 8.3 or do need to put some recent GNV too ? TIA, Pierre ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:29:29 +0200 From: "P. Sture" Subject: Re: these sshmucks are at it again... Message-ID: In article , VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > In article , "P. Sture" > writes: > > >Careful though. When debugging is on, those logs are big. > > > >TCPIP$SSH_RUN.LOG;902 (debugging switched off) > > 5/18 18-JUL-2007 17:14:25.28 > >TCPIP$SSH_RUN.LOG;901 (with debugging) > > 1515/1530 18-JUL-2007 17:13:57.78 > >TCPIP$SSH_RUN.LOG;900 > > 1643/1656 18-JUL-2007 17:03:30.72 > >TCPIP$SSH_RUN.LOG;899 > > 1813/1818 18-JUL-2007 16:57:34.54 > > Well then, that's not such a great feature. Too bad there isn't some way > to define which bebug items to log -- or maybe there is? Hmm. SYS$NET is available in TCPIP$SSH_RUN.COM, so you have the BG device name. Doing something with that is in your territory, I believe :-) -- Paul Sture ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:30:02 +0000 (UTC) From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) Subject: Re: these sshmucks are at it again... Message-ID: "AlexNOSPAMDaniels@themail.co.uk" writes: >I'd advise against "ucx set comm/reject", it's limited to 32 >addresses, the number of attacks (or co-ordinated attacked from >multiple addresses), at once could go beyond that. HP have also >publically stated that the number will not be increased 'any time >soon'. I know about that, and that is a problem. I was playing with the idea of setting the route via a blackhole (nonexistant) IP router which is nearly unlimited as to the number of entries, but it's hard to make generic, since the blackhole router has to be "reachable" on your local LAN. >You can now however use ifconfig filter, see below for an example, >that supports a much higher number of entries (see tcpip$examples:if.h >for the exact size). You can also do the ifconfig programatically >(probably getifaddrs). I did not know that existed on VMS. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:18:30 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: these sshmucks are at it again... Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:30:02 -0700, Michael Moroney wrote: > "AlexNOSPAMDaniels@themail.co.uk" writes: > >> I'd advise against "ucx set comm/reject", it's limited to 32 >> addresses, the number of attacks (or co-ordinated attacked from >> multiple addresses), at once could go beyond that. HP have also >> publically stated that the number will not be increased 'any time >> soon'. > > I know about that, and that is a problem. I was playing with the idea > of setting the route via a blackhole (nonexistant) IP router which is > nearly unlimited as to the number of entries, but it's hard to make > generic, since the blackhole router has to be "reachable" on your local > LAN. Get a router with two NICs, like a Cisco 2621 > >> You can now however use ifconfig filter, see below for an example, >> that supports a much higher number of entries (see tcpip$examples:if.h >> for the exact size). You can also do the ifconfig programatically >> (probably getifaddrs). > > I did not know that existed on VMS. Thanks. -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:18:18 -0400 From: Chuck Aaron Subject: Re: Upgrade from 7.3-2 to 8.3 - Copy from Disk to tape taking a long time. t Message-ID: The DCL copy command copy *.* to tape$c:*.* Jur van der Burg wrote: > What copy command? If you really use copy then yes, this is caused by > a bug. > As far as I know RMS now sets the 'rewind on close' bit for tapes too > (which > is a mistake) causing a rewind to happen after every file. > > It's even more fun that that, it does a PACKACK after each file (as I > found > out when developing tape support for LDdriver. > > Jur. > > Chuck Aaron wrote: >> I just upgraded from 7.3-2 to 8.3 and a copy of large files >> from disk to tape is now taking 1 hr and under 7.3-2 10min. >> dlt 8000 is scsi connected directly to back of alpha ds25 >> server. Same Machine. >> >> Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:11:07 -0400 From: Chuck Aaron Subject: Upgrade from 7.3-2 to 8.3 - Copy from Disk to tape taking a long time. time.time Message-ID: I just upgraded from 7.3-2 to 8.3 and a copy of large files from disk to tape is now taking 1 hr and under 7.3-2 10min. dlt 8000 is scsi connected directly to back of alpha ds25 server. Same Machine. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:16:06 +0200 From: Jur van der Burg <"lddriver at digiater dot nl"> Subject: Re: Upgrade from 7.3-2 to 8.3 - Copy from Disk to tape taking a long time. time. Message-ID: <46a0edda$0$337$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> What copy command? If you really use copy then yes, this is caused by a bug. As far as I know RMS now sets the 'rewind on close' bit for tapes too (which is a mistake) causing a rewind to happen after every file. It's even more fun that that, it does a PACKACK after each file (as I found out when developing tape support for LDdriver. Jur. Chuck Aaron wrote: > I just upgraded from 7.3-2 to 8.3 and a copy of large files > from disk to tape is now taking 1 hr and under 7.3-2 10min. > dlt 8000 is scsi connected directly to back of alpha ds25 > server. Same Machine. > > Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:10:46 -0000 From: IanMiller Subject: VMS Audio Update - Episode 10 Message-ID: <1184940646.646968.267480@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In this episode, we'll cover some of the news highlights from the last two months since the last update, and give you some of the audio recorded by Marty during the partner roundhouse at the VMS Bootcamp. http://www.openvms.org/stories.php?story=07/07/18/9850590 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:50:34 -0700 From: AEF Subject: What is PVAX? Message-ID: <1184943034.460671.80290@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> On the MicroVAX console commands Web page it always says (PVAX) after 3100. What does this PVAX mean? Bonus question: It also lists the UVAX-II in which I assume the U is just a poor-man's mu. I guess that's just because otherwise they'd have to put just II in that column which would be "confusing". OK, that must be it. But what is this PVAX term? Thanks! AEF ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:11:11 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: What is PVAX? Message-ID: In article <1184943034.460671.80290@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, AEF writes: > > >On the MicroVAX console commands Web page it always says (PVAX) after >3100. What does this PVAX mean? > >Bonus question: It also lists the UVAX-II in which I assume the U is >just a poor-man's mu. I guess that's just because otherwise they'd >have to put just II in that column which would be "confusing". OK, >that must be it. > >But what is this PVAX term? Personal VAX? -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:21:12 -0400 From: Stephen Hoffman Subject: Re: What is PVAX? Message-ID: AEF wrote: > On the MicroVAX console commands Web page it always says (PVAX) after > 3100. What does this PVAX mean? PVAX was the project codename for the platform. All of the systems and some of the system platforms have had project codenames. PVAX was usually translated as the Personal VAX, and was based on the CVAX microprocessor. -- www.HoffmanLabs.com Services for OpenVMS ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.394 ************************