INFO-VAX Fri, 04 Apr 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 189 Contents: Immediate:TOLAS Programmer in McHenry, IL - DIRECT CLIENT Requirement Re: Longtime VMS system manager/programmer available RE: Longtime VMS system manager/programmer available Re: Longtime VMS system manager/programmer available Re: Longtime VMS system manager/programmer available Re: Longtime VMS system manager/programmer available OpenVMS Integrity + Blades Testimonials - Financial and Telecom Markets Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Re: Scripting SET HOST/DUP with Kermit (or other)? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:17:00 -0700 (PDT) From: recruiter.lokesh@gmail.com Subject: Immediate:TOLAS Programmer in McHenry, IL - DIRECT CLIENT Requirement Message-ID: <50939209-5aaf-4211-a9cd-6baa2d5b88df@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Greetings!!! My name is Lokesh Narayanaswamy and I represent the Allied Solutions Group, Inc. an Inc 500 Company with headquarters at Cleveland, Ohio. We provide IT consulting service for our clients' across the United States and UK; your resume matches to one of our client's current needs in McHenry, IL. I found your resume on the Job board and wanted to check with you regarding your availability for new project assignments. If you are currently seeking or will be available to start a new assignment in the next month or two please send me a copy of your updated resume in Word format to discuss the available opportunities. Your resume will not be sent anywhere without your permission. Specifically, the opportunity that I would like to discuss with you is for TOLAS Programmer in McHenry, IL. Type: 6 months contract to hire Job Description Client is looking for a TOLAS Programmer Main Skills: TOLAS, VMS VAX, Alpha Cluster. Knowledge of DCL Notes: US Citizens, Green Card, TN Visas, or EAD Holders only. This is an immediate need. Onsite is preferred, Remote is a slight chance- only if they are awesome. And also provide me the answers to the following questions: Desired position. Primary Skills Location (city and state, Contact number/Alternate number/ best time to contact) Are you willing to relocate, do you have any location restrictions? (If any provide it) Expected pay rate. Are you willing to work on W2? IF C2C please provide me your employers details: Work Authorization status? Date of availability. It's an exciting time at ASGI. We offer a competitive salary, Medical/ Health Insurance, Paid Holidays, Vacation, and Sick Days. To learn more about our company and this opportunity, please give us a call. Regards, Lokesh Narayanaswamy Allied Solutions Group, Inc. ------------------------------------ Ph: 440.550.4032 Fax: 440.550.8029 E-mail: lokesh.narayanaswamy@alliedgroups.com Web: www.alliedgroups.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. It must not be used by anyone who is not the original intended recipients. If you are not the intended recipient of this message and are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the content of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and destroy all copied of the transmittal. Thank you ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:42:35 -0700 From: Malcolm Dunnett Subject: Re: Longtime VMS system manager/programmer available Message-ID: <47f5332b$1@flight> JF Mezei wrote: > > Remember that many at HP have said that VMS would not be ported beyond > Itanium. This is a pretty strong message about its future. > Do you have references for this (eg who said it, when they said it, link to URL with this information) ? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 21:04:14 +0000 From: "Main, Kerry" Subject: RE: Longtime VMS system manager/programmer available Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Malcolm Dunnett [mailto:nothome@spammers.are.scum] > Sent: April 3, 2008 3:43 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > Subject: Re: Longtime VMS system manager/programmer available > > JF Mezei wrote: > > > > Remember that many at HP have said that VMS would not be ported > beyond > > Itanium. This is a pretty strong message about its future. > > > > Do you have references for this (eg who said it, when they said it, > link to URL with this information) ? JF tends to infer things and then re-state them as facts to further his own agenda. HP has always stated it requires a business justification to move to any new platform. They never stated it would not be ported beyond Itanium. Any vendor would be nuts not to have this view. Regards Kerry Main Senior Consultant HP Services Canada Voice: 613-254-8911 Fax: 613-591-4477 kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT) OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works. Regards ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:25:58 -0400 From: Brendan Welch Subject: Re: Longtime VMS system manager/programmer available Message-ID: > If you're not a member of LinkedIn I would > recommend signing up there. > > Good luck. > > Ken > Another source which I just discovered, but cannot vouch for, is my.indeed.com using keywords vax vms vax/vms (all 3 simultaneously) At least it generates stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:31:50 -0400 From: Brendan Welch Subject: Re: Longtime VMS system manager/programmer available Message-ID: JF Mezei wrote: > winston19842005@yahoo.com wrote: > > >> But because of how many OTHER people out there had both certs & >> experience, I lost out. Having your VMS skills and saying they are >> transferable isn't the same as having Unix experience, unfortunately. >> > > Which is why if you are lucky enough to have an employer willing to > transfer/train you from VMS to Unix, you should take it because you will > get much needed experience. > > > Staying with VMS is more and more a dead end situation. Sad, but true. > Of course it didn't make sense to DEC at the time, but I still contend that long ago, when AT&T was essentially giving away Unix, DEC could have changed the world by giving away VMS. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:08:06 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Longtime VMS system manager/programmer available Message-ID: <47f571d0$0$6429$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Malcolm Dunnett wrote: > Do you have references for this (eg who said it, when they said it, > link to URL with this information) ? I my universe (which always seems to be ever so slighty different from everyone else's, I distinctinly saw many posts from a very famous former VMS engineer (whose name sounds like he is running out of breath) that there were no plans to port VMS beyond IA64. Also, Livermore was asked by media about plans to port HP-UX and others from IA64 and she re-itrerated that HP had no plans to port it to the industry standard platform. deja news/google (which exists in your plane of existance) did not immediatly return the results I was seeking. So I have to assume that those statements were never made in your universe. And since nobody would ever wish to be caught agreeing with me, I can't expect anyone to corroborate where I think I read. So you may return to thinking all is well with VMS and that the installed based is growing at a healthy pace with no problems. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 18:50:48 +0000 From: "Main, Kerry" Subject: OpenVMS Integrity + Blades Testimonials - Financial and Telecom Markets Message-ID: All, The readers of this list might be interested in the following links: http://h71028.www7.hp.com/ERC/downloads/4AA1-7816ENW.pdf (Feb 2008) http://tinyurl.com/2kpvhw (see video testimonial as well) "World's largest financial exchange organization delivers superior service = with HP OpenVMS clusters on HP Integrity server blades Deutsche B=F6rse Group pr= ocesses tens of millions of transactions daily with less than 10-millisecond respon= se times [see rest of brochure] http://tinyurl.com/2leclp (see video testimonial as well) "Messaging service provider stays ahead of a booming text-messaging market.= Service provider grows to deliver more than half of the world's mobile messages-wit= h minimal changes to its infrastructure. "We built our SMS service on top of HP BladeSystem and the HP OpenVMS opera= ting system because of the high availability and clustering capabilities of the = solution. We've been able to scale our system to become an industry leader while prov= iding continuous service to our customers." -- Steven van Zeanen, Vice President of Marketing, Acision http://tinyurl.com/3bth2y World's fastest-growing equity options exchange trades up to HP Integrity-O= penVMS Architecture. "The HP OpenVMS operating system on Integrity servers is extremely stable w= ith excellent capacity and availability. We have found its reliability, securit= y, and clustering features to be valuable and to uniquely meet our performance dem= ands." Richard Ens, Head of System, Storage, and Network Engineering, International Securities Exchange Regards Kerry Main Senior Consultant HP Services Canada Voice: 613-254-8911 Fax: 613-591-4477 kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT) OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 19:59:20 -0400 From: "William Webb" Subject: Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Message-ID: <8660a3a10804031659j69668326o75f56e7a4c4f51c4@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:21 AM, JF Mezei wrote: > Why doesn't VMS have a "SAY" command ? My Mac has one. > > > > > SAY(1) Speech Synthesis Manager SAY(1) > > > > NAME > > say - Convert text to audible speech > > > > SYNOPSIS > > say [-v voice] [-o out.aiff] [-f file | string ...] > > > > DESCRIPTION > > This tool uses the Speech Synthesis manager to convert input text to > > audible speech and either play it through the sound output device cho- > > sen in System Preferences or save it to an AIFF file. > > > > OPTIONS > > string > > Specify the text to speak on the command line. This can consist of > > multiple arguments, which are considered to be separated by spaces. > > > > -f file > > Specify a file to be spoken. If file is - or neither this parameter > > nor a message is specified, read from standard input. > > > > -v voice > > Specify the voice to be used. Default is the voice selected in Sys- > > tem Preferences. > > > > -o out.aiff > > Specify an AIFF file to be written. > > > > If the input is a TTY, text is spoken line by line, and the output > > file, if specified, will only contain audio for the last line of the > > input. Otherwise, text is spoken all at once. > > > > ERRORS > > say returns 0 if the text was spoken successfully, otherwise non-zero. > > Diagnostic messages will be printed to standard error. > > > > 1.0 2003-05-23 SAY(1) > > > Oh, I forgot, they dropped all support for sound on VMS. It is a shame > because there are interesting uses for this with web servers dynamically > geneaing audible responses to and AIFF file streamed to the remote users > for instance. (See, even in a "server only" mode which VMS has been > relegated/restricted to, such a command owuld have some uses) > Hi, jf- it's been a while. I've gotten bits of previews of features that will be in 8.4 from discussions with HP VMS folks while they were working calls I'd logged (this is somewhat frequent occurrence in a shop with well over 100 VMS boxes). I've also been to NDA presentations about 8.4 and directions beyond. I guess I can talk about something that *hasn't* been in any of them, and an implementation of SAY as a DCL command is, sadly, not among the things I've learned in either of the situations described above. On a lighter note, reading your post gave me a vivid mental image of a straw figure in a shape somewhat resembling a certain French-Canadian who posts regularly to comp.os.vms-- hanging in midair and on fire outside of whatever building VMS Engineering has been moved to... Best regards, WWWebb Who's going to bootcamp? Drop me a line. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:37:59 +1000 From: Jim Duff Subject: Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Message-ID: <47f57868$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> JF Mezei wrote: > Why doesn't VMS have a "SAY" command ? My Mac has one. > >[snip] > > > Oh, I forgot, they dropped all support for sound on VMS. It is a shame > because there are interesting uses for this with web servers dynamically > geneaing audible responses to and AIFF file streamed to the remote users > for instance. (See, even in a "server only" mode which VMS has been > relegated/restricted to, such a command owuld have some uses) $ say := write dectalk $ open/write dectalk _tta0: $ say "testing 1 2 3" $ close dectalk works great for me and my DECtalk Express :-) Jim. -- www.eight-cubed.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:39:34 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Message-ID: <47f57921$0$28117$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> William Webb wrote: > On a lighter note, reading your post gave me a vivid mental image of a > straw figure in a shape somewhat resembling a certain French-Canadian > who posts regularly to comp.os.vms-- hanging in midair and on fire > outside of whatever building VMS Engineering has been moved to... yeah I know. At one point, if I had showed up at the bootcamp, the engineers threathened to tie me up to their car's rooftop and parade me around town as a trophy, as they would have a dead deer :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:44:32 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Message-ID: <47F579F0.1030605@comcast.net> JF Mezei wrote: > William Webb wrote: > > >>On a lighter note, reading your post gave me a vivid mental image of a >>straw figure in a shape somewhat resembling a certain French-Canadian >>who posts regularly to comp.os.vms-- hanging in midair and on fire >>outside of whatever building VMS Engineering has been moved to... > > > yeah I know. At one point, if I had showed up at the bootcamp, the > engineers threathened to tie me up to their car's rooftop and parade me > around town as a trophy, as they would have a dead deer :-) If had shown up, it would have been a day to remember!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:58:33 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Message-ID: <47f57dc8$0$3909$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > If had shown up, it would have been a day to remember!! > > Sue did manage to implemnent some of the VMS engineers' wishes in february 2007 in Toronto. http://www.vaxination.ca/vms/decus/web/100_0194.jpg ------------------------------ Date: 04 Apr 2008 01:15:05 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Message-ID: <47f58119$0$15176$607ed4bc@cv.net> In article <47f57dc8$0$3909$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei writes: >Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > >> If had shown up, it would have been a day to remember!! >> >> > >Sue did manage to implemnent some of the VMS engineers' wishes in >february 2007 in Toronto. > >http://www.vaxination.ca/vms/decus/web/100_0194.jpg Who's that gaffer taped in the chair? It would be much funnier to see Sue in a Nurse Diesel's BSDM outfit with that bat in hand! :) -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:14:35 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: Request for DCL improvement (say) Message-ID: <47F580FB.6090501@comcast.net> JF Mezei wrote: > Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > > >>If had shown up, it would have been a day to remember!! >> >> > > > Sue did manage to implemnent some of the VMS engineers' wishes in > february 2007 in Toronto. > > http://www.vaxination.ca/vms/decus/web/100_0194.jpg Oh for a baseball bat and couple of rolls of duct tape! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:49:05 GMT From: John Santos Subject: Re: Scripting SET HOST/DUP with Kermit (or other)? Message-ID: In article , mckinneyj@saic.com says... > On Apr 2, 11:30 am, Ken.Fairfi...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Apr 2, 6:48 am, Jim wrote: > > [...] > > > > > You'll want to check out HSDSA-SCRIPT-ALPHA or HSDSA-SCRIPT-VAX . Seehttp://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do;HP-FORUM... > > > or use google and search for the name of your choice. > > > > Thanks for the pointer(s).  I found Hoff's VMS_CHECK.ZIP > > via Google for HSDSA-SCRIPT-ALPHA on the ITRC System > > Management forum and have downloaded it.  I'll try later > > today to extract HSDSA-SCRIPT-ALPHA from it (I'm not > > sure I want to install the whole kit yet...). > > > >    Thanks again, Ken > > > I think that HSDSA-SCRIPT-ALPHA alone will be adequate for what you're > doing. > > - Jim > If that doesn't pan out, maybe this would work with Kermit: 1) in Kermit, telnet 0 (local host) 2) log in, using your own username and password (unfortunately, I can't think of any easy way to avoid putting the password in the script.) [1] 3) once logged in, output (send to the telnet connection) the "set host/dup..." command 4) follow with your various "show ..." commands, parsing and/or logging the results as needed. 5) exit from set host/dup (ctrl/], IIRC) 6) log off the telnet session All this can be done in a Kermit script, and to "set host/dup" and to the HSJ looks like you are typing it all interactively. [1] C-Kermit supports SSH, but I don't think this is implemented in the latest VMS version. If so, use that. If not, I'm sure Frank would appreciate your implementing it! :-) HTH -- John ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.189 ************************