INFO-VAX Mon, 28 Apr 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 236 Contents: Re: 8.3 Alpha Upgrade Tips Re: Intel Itanium RAS Comparison with X86 Re: scripting a telnet session to VMS Re: scripting a telnet session to VMS Re: [OpenVMS I64] V8.3-1H1 anyone? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:18:15 -0400 From: bradhamilton Subject: Re: 8.3 Alpha Upgrade Tips Message-ID: <4814C367.3050408@comcast.net> Mike wrote: > Upgrading from Alpha 7.3 to 8.3 using the new hobbyist kit (THANKS!) > any special hints/tips? > > Have a virgin DS10L from Island running 7.3-perhaps-not-sure. Was > thinking of dusting it off, doing the upgrade or a fresh install > (again not sure which to do) on it, then migrating the live 7.3 to > the 8.3, upgrading the old live 7.3 once the new 8.3 can replace it. > > What do you think? two 7.3 to 8.3 upgrades, or one 8.3 fresh install > and one upgrade? > > Ending-up with two working 8.3s, if it makes sense to cluster them > ostensibly to get hardware redundancy, anything one should do along > the way knowing that the final 8.3 configs may be clustered? Without knowing any more detail about your environment, I would take the "virgin" DS10L and do a fresh V8.3 install on it. Your post implies that there is another Alpha system with some version of V7.3-N. If N=2, I *think* you can cluster the two systems without difficulty, and then upgrade to V8.3 at your leisure (or alternatively, create another system root on the DS10L system disk, and boot the other machine into that root, bypassing the need for an upgrade). My suppositions assume that you might have "other" disks on the systems, and have segregated your applications and their associated data from the system disks. If the system disks are the only disks, your task becomes more complicated, but still possible. Different approaches might be needed, depending on your scheme. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:10:44 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: Intel Itanium RAS Comparison with X86 Message-ID: On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:25:32 -0700, JF Mezei wrote: > So lack of PL1 on IA64 is an indication that DOD isn't using PL1 on IA64. Some of them are just now coverting from VAX to Alpha! -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:39:43 -0400 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: scripting a telnet session to VMS Message-ID: <4814d67a$0$90275$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Bob Koehler wrote: > In article <480169ae$0$90272$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= writes: >> But I can not even remember having heard about a desktop Windows >> box being hacked. It probably has happened though. > > What stone have you been sleeping under for the last 20 years? Please post a link to a story about a desktop windows that has been hacked (not infected by virus, worms, trojans etc.). Hacking is coupled with server style apps, which desktop Windows systems does not run. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:42:40 -0400 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: scripting a telnet session to VMS Message-ID: <4814d72c$0$90263$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk wrote: > In article <480169ae$0$90272$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= writes: >> david20@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk wrote: >>> In article <47ec1994$0$90276$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= writes: >>>> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >>>>> Cygwin is a Weendoze terminal emulator? >>>> Cygwin is a *nix shell + utilities + libraries for Windows. >>>> >>>>> I can't believe you'd be so lax >>>>> with system security to have username and password to a VMS machine hard- >>>>> coded into a script that any hacker who gets into the Weendoze box could >>>>> exploit. >>>> The risk of hacking is probably lower than for most OS'es. >>>> >>> Well I suppose you could argue that there are so many unpatched badly mismanaged >>> Windows systems out there that you have to be unlucky for someone to pick on >>> your machine to hack into. >> Most desktop Windows systems are not running a >> telnet/FTP/SSH/HTTP/whatever server. >> >> As a result they are for all practical purposes never hacked. >> > Lots of malware opens up backdoor ports and some of those run public-domain > ftp server software on those ports. That is not hacking unless the malware is targeted against a specific PC. > Also wormable vulnerabilities (ie those where no user intervention is > necessary and the patch states that it may allow remote code execution > are just as vulnerable to hackers as they are to having a worm written > for them). Sure. It is definitely possible. But it just never seems to happen in real life. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:21:02 +0000 (UTC) From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER) Subject: Re: [OpenVMS I64] V8.3-1H1 anyone? Message-ID: In article <48145d71@news.langstoeger.at>, eplan@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) writes: >If some OpenVMS I64 V8.3-1H1 Owner have an image of the VMS DVD handy, >I'd like to ask for a copy/download. Please drop me a line if you do. >(I only have V8.3 so far) Got it (from the usual place at HP). I still don't know, why I didn't find it there at my first guess/look. So, thanks friends (W., S., E., ...), for helping me (and my rotten mind ;-)... -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Network and OpenVMS system specialist E-mail peter@langstoeger.at A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.236 ************************