INFO-VAX Sat, 07 Jun 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 316 Contents: Re: Any one out there have VAX APL Manuals Re: Any one out there have VAX APL Manuals Re: Birthday Re: DEC Document Has anybody ported VAX notes to Integrity? Re: Has anybody ported VAX notes to Integrity? Re: It's that time again - Free XP1000 Giveaway Re: It's that time again - Free XP1000 Giveaway Pictures from bootcamp? Re: Tier3 today - And Flex-it like NASDAQ (*Only better!*) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:00:03 -0400 From: John Reagan Subject: Re: Any one out there have VAX APL Manuals Message-ID: Marc Van Dyck wrote: > Rich Jordan submitted this idea : > >> On Apr 26, 3:08 pm, urbancamo wrote: >> >>> Sorry for repeating myself, but does anyone out there have a set of >>> the VAX APL Manuals? >>> >>> Thanks for your time, >>> >>> Mark. >> >> >> I certainly don't have hardcopy. Would they have ever been available >> on the CONDIST/CONDOC sets? If so any idea what timeframe? I do have >> some moderately old ones of those but stored offsite so I can't look >> at them now. >> >> Rich > > > As far as I remember, VAX APL is a product that has been retired > quite early, before Alpha, I would say around 1990 but I'm not sure. > I'm almost sure it has never been published on CD at all. After product > retirement, its sources have been donated to DECUS. May be the sources > of the manuals followed the same way ? > Hey, guess what? I was cleaning out a box of old stuff and found a TK50 marked as "VAX APL V4.0 Manuals in .PS format". The books are dated from 1991, the saveset and tape were created in 1995. The files came off the tape just fine (finding a TK70 drive was the fun part). I'll convert them into PDF with Acrobat. I'll try to get them stuck on the next freeware CD but in the meantime, if you want to send me some email I'll send them. I didn't find any SDML Document sources (or whatever they were written in), just the .PS files. -- John Reagan OpenVMS Pascal/Macro-32 Project Leader Hewlett-Packard Company ------------------------------ Date: 07 Jun 2008 00:11:49 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: Any one out there have VAX APL Manuals Message-ID: <4849d245$0$11640$607ed4bc@cv.net> In article , John Reagan writes: >Marc Van Dyck wrote: >> Rich Jordan submitted this idea : >> >>> On Apr 26, 3:08 pm, urbancamo wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry for repeating myself, but does anyone out there have a set of >>>> the VAX APL Manuals? >>>> >>>> Thanks for your time, >>>> >>>> Mark. >>> >>> >>> I certainly don't have hardcopy. Would they have ever been available >>> on the CONDIST/CONDOC sets? If so any idea what timeframe? I do have >>> some moderately old ones of those but stored offsite so I can't look >>> at them now. >>> >>> Rich >> >> >> As far as I remember, VAX APL is a product that has been retired >> quite early, before Alpha, I would say around 1990 but I'm not sure. >> I'm almost sure it has never been published on CD at all. After product >> retirement, its sources have been donated to DECUS. May be the sources >> of the manuals followed the same way ? >> > >Hey, guess what? I was cleaning out a box of old stuff and found a TK50 >marked as "VAX APL V4.0 Manuals in .PS format". The books are dated >from 1991, the saveset and tape were created in 1995. The files came >off the tape just fine (finding a TK70 drive was the fun part). I'll >convert them into PDF with Acrobat. I'll try to get them stuck on the >next freeware CD but in the meantime, if you want to send me some email >I'll send them. I didn't find any SDML Document sources (or whatever >they were written in), just the .PS files. Can you put the .PS there too? -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:57:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Didier_Toulouse Subject: Re: Birthday Message-ID: someone sent me a private message but my spambayes system deleted it before I had time to read it :-( Please resend. Thanks, DTL ps: Today is the 25th birthday of my ack message in this forum to our Liberators from GB, USA, Canada, Australia, Ireland and all the others who came to my Country on this famous D Day to die for my freedom. Maybe I could stop posting such message, as all these gentlemen and women who came home safely in 1945 are probably dead today. Btw, we lost a few weeks ago the last "poilu" from WW I. Lazare Ponticelli. He was 110. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 03:20:42 +0100 From: "pos" Subject: Re: DEC Document Message-ID: <4849f067$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com> >> Anyone remembers DECinspect ? Yep. Decommed it in 1999 from 100 VMS machines. Meant to be used by Internal Security, who didn't understand security, let alone OpenVMS. I am also looking to use DEC Document. Damn' all reply from the vendor. So if any at least has the media.... "Paul Anderson" wrote in message news:paul.anderson-8F978B.10021630052008@usenet01.boi.hp.com... > In article , > Marc Van Dyck wrote: > >> Anyone remembers DECinspect ? > > We still use my Inspect coffee mug which shows the INSPECT command and > all its qualifiers. > > Paul > > -- > Paul Anderson > OpenVMS Engineering > Hewlett-Packard Company ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 19:15:40 -0400 From: "William Webb" Subject: Has anybody ported VAX notes to Integrity? Message-ID: <8660a3a10806061615m71061468t4cc16431cecd1709@mail.gmail.com> Inquiring minds want to know. Second topic: mediawiki on VMS. will the guy who runs the VAMP board send me an email? I've forgotten who I am there. Thanks, WWWebb ------------------------------ Date: 6 Jun 2008 19:17:53 -0500 From: burley+news@encompasserve.org (Graham Burley) Subject: Re: Has anybody ported VAX notes to Integrity? Message-ID: In article <8660a3a10806061615m71061468t4cc16431cecd1709@mail.gmail.com>, "William Webb" writes: > Inquiring minds want to know. Notes for IA64 is on the OpenVMS Freeware V7.0 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:25:03 GMT From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?= Subject: Re: It's that time again - Free XP1000 Giveaway Message-ID: Hi. I guess intl shipping will be added ? :-) Jan-Erik Söderholm Sweden +46 121 29040 (office) +46 70 524 1690 (mobile) +46 121 10550 (home) David Turner, Island Computers wrote: > We're giving away an Alphastation XP1000 configured as follows: > > > Alphastation XP1000 667Mhx EV67 with 4MB Cache > 1GB Memory (4 x 256MB) > 36GB 10KRPM SCSI Hard Disk > U160 Dual Port SCSI + On Board UW SCSI > Permedia 2 8MB Graphics Card > On Board 10/100 Ethernet Adapter > CDROM and Floppy > 5 PCI Slots ( two ae used by SCSI and Graphics) > > International voltages variable from 100~250V 50/60hz (works everywhere!) > > > > > Include "FREE XP1000 Giveaway" in the subject line or just hit reply (valid > emial address required) > > > We will also need your name, and daytime contact number in case you win. > You don't have to provide it, but the email will be deleted if not included. > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:27:50 GMT From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?= Subject: Re: It's that time again - Free XP1000 Giveaway Message-ID: Well, well, "just hit reply"... :-) :-) I guess this should have been sent directly to David, so "just hit forward" whould have been an better advice... :-) Sorry... Jan-Erik. Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote: > Hi. > > I guess intl shipping will be added ? :-) > > Jan-Erik Söderholm > Sweden > +46 121 29040 (office) > +46 70 524 1690 (mobile) > +46 121 10550 (home) > > > > David Turner, Island Computers wrote: >> We're giving away an Alphastation XP1000 configured as follows: >> >> >> Alphastation XP1000 667Mhx EV67 with 4MB Cache >> 1GB Memory (4 x 256MB) >> 36GB 10KRPM SCSI Hard Disk >> U160 Dual Port SCSI + On Board UW SCSI >> Permedia 2 8MB Graphics Card >> On Board 10/100 Ethernet Adapter >> CDROM and Floppy >> 5 PCI Slots ( two ae used by SCSI and Graphics) >> >> International voltages variable from 100~250V 50/60hz (works everywhere!) >> >> >> >> >> Include "FREE XP1000 Giveaway" in the subject line or just hit reply >> (valid emial address required) >> >> >> We will also need your name, and daytime contact number in case you win. >> You don't have to provide it, but the email will be deleted if not >> included. >> >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 20:40:15 -0400 From: "William Webb" Subject: Pictures from bootcamp? Message-ID: <8660a3a10806061740yd9ac99ew55fca60c45031c1c@mail.gmail.com> If anybody has pictures from bootcamp, please let me know. I'm especially looking for pictures of Sue getting the award on Magic Night. Thanks, WWWebb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 10:58:09 +0800 From: "Richard Maher" Subject: Re: Tier3 today - And Flex-it like NASDAQ (*Only better!*) Message-ID: Hi, If your're trying to look at or build the example in your own version of FlexBuilder, or just working on the FABridge functionality in general, you should update your Flex Build-Path as follows: - Flex-Builder -------Properties ---------------Flex Build Path ----------------------- C:\Program Files\Adobe\Flex Builder 3\SDKS\3.0.0\Frameworks\Javascript\FABridge\src\ (Or whatever the equivilent path name id on Mac OS-X) Cheers Richard Maher "Richard Maher" wrote in message news:g1e822$lfh$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au... > Hi, > > For those who have looked at my Flex-Charting/VMS/3GL/Rdb demonstration and > may be wondering about where to draw the line between Java/Javascript/HTML > and Flex/Flash, and how harmoniously these technologies can work together to > deliver that RIA experience to your end-users, you may wish to have a look > at www.nasdaq.com click on "Quotes, Charts & Research" then choose some > stock (I chose "IONA, TIBX, HP" to see why a company with resources as vast > as HP's apparently doesn't have an SOA person worth listening to at > Bootcamp) and then click on "Interactive Charts". > > This definitely looks like "a work in progress" for NASDAQ as they move away > from static, server-generated charts. (And they've finally gotten over that > annoying "Click on this control to activate" message. See avoidpatent.js in > http://manson.vistech.net/t3$examples/ to see similar) But what I'd like to > do is use these two Flex-Charting examples to illustrate and contrast the > true beauty of Adobe's FABridge functionality (or their external interface > direct). If you click on NASDAQ's Javascript-backed checkbox(es) to add > additional stock to the chart (in my case HP) you with see that it goes off > to the server and looks to completely reload the chart via > "chartHolder.innerHTML=showChart(blah,blah)" in a Web1.5(esque) display, > whereas with the Tier3 example, all of the Flex controls such > ArrayCollections are completely accessible via the Javascript in > Employee_Lookup.html, with full Web2.0 credentials. No reloading of any HTML > Objects or chart re-instancing, all ActionScript components, and their > accompanying methods, are laid bare and fully accessible by your Javascript. > For example : - > > employeeFeed = flexApp.getEmployeeFeed(); > : : : > var employee = buildEmployee(empMsgField, empRec); > employeeFeed.addItem(employee); > > The addItem() above is an actionscript method on a mxml ArrayCollection > component being accessed directly from Javascript. > > Now, I clearly do not have the resources of a NASDAQ, but I offer my humble > code as an example of what can be achieved *today* for those VMS sites that > are thinking of leaving and migrating to something more GUI and/or Web > friendly. All modesty aside, I think it's safe to say that, given just a > fraction of the resources that VMS Middle Management has squandered on > DECForms, BridgeWorks, SOAP/Toolkit, WSIT and now gSOAP, my efforts would > have resulted in a far greater ROI for the VMS License-payer. But that would > be akin to"merit-based project funding" I suppose, and not nearly as much > fun as doling out to your buddies' projects from the VMS-license-fee > coffers, as if it were your own money? But of course, they were born to > rule, and have twenty years experience at screwing the VMS client-base under > their belt! Woe betide anyone with the impertinence to ask "What the fuck > are they there for?"! > > Cheers Richard Maher > > PS. Apparently my example works with OS-X and FireFox but not Safari. If > anyone knows why them please let me know. (Some Vista IE clients are also > experiencing the problem where the "GO" button turns red but nothing is > returned and something like "FABridge is not defined". Curious!) > > Still to come: Broadcasted server to client messages, that can either > trigger - JSObject.call() - a client call back to the server for further > info, or perhaps a modal Java popup with some status/stock-price/opcom > message. (Nothing much to do with Tier3 but still nice to see. (Will be > useful for the Ajax(esque) callback after server read)) > > "Richard Maher" wrote in message > news:g02hgo$4gp$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au... > > Hi, > > > > If you'd like to see an example of a browser-based Flex/HTML/Javascript > GUI > > client talking to a VMS 3GL server, please click on: - > > > > http://manson.vistech.net/t3$examples/demo_client_flex.html > > > > and have a gander. > > > > Username: TIER3_DEMO > > Password: QUEUE > > > > You *must* be running: - > > > > . The *latest* version of Adobe's Flash Player (Adobe and FlexBuilder > > generate the code for version checking and auto-download but I left it out > > of the example for brevity) > > . JVM 1.4-2 or later (Java 6 has been out for over a year; what's wrong > with > > ya :-) > > . If you are behind a firewall that disables outgoing connections then you > > must open up to destination port 5255. > > . You must have Javascript and Applets enabled for your browser > > . Apart from that I've tested it with IE6/7 and Firefox and others have it > > working on Safari and Opera > > > > Now, sadly, I was unable to obtain any sort of Rdb Hobbyists license for > the > > Deathrow Cluster so I've had to provide a fudge in that the data is > > hard-coded in DEMO_UARS.COB :-( But if you want to see what the Rdb code > on > > our machines looks like then peruse: - > > > > http://manson.vistech.net/t3$examples/ > > > > For all of the source code: - > > > > Server: - > > > > demo_flex.cob (Cobol server code) > > build_flex_demo.com (Creates the UAR shareable) > > demo_flex_sql.sqlmod (SQL you guessed it) > > > > Client: - > > > > demo_client_flex.html } > > employee_lookup.html } All the Application-specific html > > avoidpatent.js } > > > > bridgetest.mxml } The Flex driving logic (I can't believe it's that > small!) > > > > Those who are familiar with demo_client_web.html are already familiar with > > the example Java classes and CornuCopiae.html. NB: *NO* new Java was > created > > for the new application! Code reuse and modularity set to maximum! > > > > Cheers Richard Maher > > > > ps. If you'd like to see this on HP's TestDrive Cluster *with* Rdb then > tell > > me (or better still tell your HP rep!) Maybe it's just me, but surely > you'd > > be forgiven for wondering why Oracle/Rdb or HP/VMS would not seize on this > > opportunity to promote and support their wares? > > > > pps. If you haven't worked it out yet :-) hover over the pie charts and > > click for data drill-down. > > > > > > ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.316 ************************