INFO-VAX Sun, 13 Jul 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 389 Contents: RE: Another new VMS system. Re: USPS (Unbelievably Sl-o-o-o-w Postal Service) Re: USPS (Unbelievably Sl-o-o-o-w Postal Service) Re: USPS (Unbelievably Sl-o-o-o-w Postal Service) Re: USPS (Unbelievably Sl-o-o-o-w Postal Service) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:47:28 +0000 From: "Main, Kerry" Subject: RE: Another new VMS system. Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Austin [mailto:maustin@firstdbasource.com] > Sent: July 8, 2008 4:36 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > Subject: Re: Another new VMS system. > > Jan-Erik S=F6derholm wrote: > > See http://www.sgx.com/ > > Click "SGX moves to new securities trading engine". > > > > Or see : http://tinyurl.com/5zpm8k for a > > less-capable-browser-version... > > > I find no information (in google...) that describes the actual platform > this runs on... I cannot even find anything on Quest-ST - do you have a > source that describes the platform? Perhaps the experiences they had with what appears to be their last new system had some influence on their choice for this new application? http://www.openvms.org/stories.php?story=3D04/01/22/7074154 (2004 article= ) "SGX, a new OpenVMS customer, will base their SGX Quest installation on HP AlphaServer systems running HP's Reliable Transaction Router (RTR) and Oracle=AE Rdb database in a two-site, disaster-tolerant configuration." Regards Kerry Main Senior Consultant HP Services Canada Voice: 613-254-8911 Fax: 613-591-4477 kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT) OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:00:50 -0700 (PDT) From: AEF Subject: Re: USPS (Unbelievably Sl-o-o-o-w Postal Service) Message-ID: <6281cc93-4dcc-4ad8-bd4f-7be0a2b5b98e@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> On Jul 12, 9:06 pm, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > In article , AEF writes: > > > > >On Jul 12, 9:39 am, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > >> Where's our USPS VMS advocate? Please tell me that this is _NOT_ a VMS > >> foul up. > [...] > >It often happens that finger of blame points the wrong way. > > >> How does the USPS foul up routing like this? > > >> A package, sent priority overnite from Warminster, Pa to Jackson, proNJ > >> (a distance of approximately 50 miles) on the 8th of July, is STILL NOT > >> here? > > >> Label/Receipt Number: 9101 7850 9140 1639 8149 11 > >> Detailed Results: > > >> Processed, July 12, 2008, 12:11 am, TRENTON, NJ 08650 > >> Processed, July 11, 2008, 1:04 pm, KEARNY, NJ 07099 > >> Processed, July 10, 2008, 10:27 pm, PHILADELPHIA, PA 19176 > >> Electronic Shipping Info Received, July 08, 2008 > > >> Warminster to Philly I understand, but then to Northern proNJ (Kearny) to > >> go back to Trenton (across the river from Philly)? What next? Hamilton > >> facility for a nuking before I get it? That should render it useless up- > >> on arrival. > > >Some variation of the hub-and-spoke method, which often produces paths > >that look ridiculous when looked at in isolation, but make perfect > >sense when looked at globally. See my first post. > > Regardless, overnight is one-day -- not 4 or 5! Yeah, well. The post office must have millions of letters and packages to deliver. The question becomes: How often does this happen? It's only reasonable to expect it to happen at least once in a while. Yeah, I've experienced an occasional goof from the post office. One letter was delivered damaged (ripped in half IIRC) but with an apology! Another with a check for storage rent was lost. But that's all that went wrong that I can remember! And I've been around for a few decades. When programmers start writing 100% flawless code, let me know. Actually, there are some examples of code that is written for the general case and it looks pretty stupid for a simple, but perhaps rare, particular case. Using code that calculates square roots to calculate the square root of 1 or 0 is one. Using multiplication code to multiply by 0 is another. Using addition code to add 0 is yet another. Using a prime number program to check if 2 or 3 is a prime number is still yet another. Using a series to raise e to the 0th power is still further yet another! Using division code to divide by zero is still further even yet another! (!!!) Using the quadratic formula to solve 2nd-degree polynomials in the case where a = c = 0 (giving bx = 0) is still further even also yet another! Two more more stories: One time the landlord called me to let me know that my check probably hadn't arrived because the mailbox on the street corner closest to me experienced a fire (perhaps some fool threw a lighted match into it). Anyway, the truth was that I forgot to mail him a check! Lucky me!!! :- D Last story: I once got a letter 4 yellow stickers deep, and it wasn't even for me! (Now that's quality.) It turned out that when I was living in Palo Alto, a friend from college who had no effective permanent address was directing at least some of his mail to my address where I shared a house with some other college friends. His middle name was the same as my first name, and it was circled in pen on the front of the envelope. So I assume the postal worker figured, "Well, might as well send it this other dude with at least one part of his name in common who used to live here; that's the best I can do." And I was living in Hyattsville, MD at the time. (Or some other town near College Park. I had moved several times out there and my memory of which city each of my residences was is a little fuzzy. Actually, the boundaries between those towns is fuzzy. And one area went by three different names depending on whether you looked at map, the post office building, or some other source I can't recall right now.) Anyway, I should have saved the letter because the dude probably didn't want it. It was one of the endless stream of credit union letters we were getting on his behalf. Oh, well. AEF > VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM [...] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:45:04 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: USPS (Unbelievably Sl-o-o-o-w Postal Service) Message-ID: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > In article <6ds4seF44al3U2@mid.individual.net>, billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes: >> {...snip...} >> Why would this surprise you? I live in Luzerne, PA. Zipcode 18709. >> Yes, we have our own Post Office. If I send a letter to my next >> door neightbor it will take at least 3 days and usually 5 or 6. >> All mail from here is sent to Allentown for sorting, even mail >> addressed to the same ZipCode. (Now, shall we go into the definition >> of "Overnight" according to the USPS Regulations? Or does your head >> already hurt?) > > You make is sound like Allentown is a bad place. Some great things have > come out of Allentown! ;) > But now that they're out . . . . ?????? ;-) ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jul 2008 12:05:25 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: USPS (Unbelievably Sl-o-o-o-w Postal Service) Message-ID: <4879ef85$0$5001$607ed4bc@cv.net> In article <6dt5fkF470enU1@mid.individual.net>, billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes: >In article <4879545a$0$11596$607ed4bc@cv.net>, > VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: >> In article <6ds4seF44al3U2@mid.individual.net>, billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes: >>>{...snip...} >>>Why would this surprise you? I live in Luzerne, PA. Zipcode 18709. >>>Yes, we have our own Post Office. If I send a letter to my next >>>door neightbor it will take at least 3 days and usually 5 or 6. >>>All mail from here is sent to Allentown for sorting, even mail >>>addressed to the same ZipCode. (Now, shall we go into the definition >>>of "Overnight" according to the USPS Regulations? Or does your head >>>already hurt?) >> >> You make is sound like Allentown is a bad place. Some great things have >> come out of Allentown! ;) > >Name one. And Billy Joel is definetly not it. Me! :) Billy Joel is not and never was an A-towner! -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" Copyright 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. Any publication of _this_ usenet article outside of usenet _must_ include its contents _in_its_entirety_ including this copyright notice, disclaimer and quotations. The citizens of our state must be free, within reason, to speak out on matters of public concern. So long as they state the facts implicated fairly and express their opinions, even in the most colorful and hyperbolic terms, their speech should be protected by us. -- NJ Superior Court Appellate Div. (NJSC) ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC) "Coding is _not_ a crime!" Support the EFF: http://www.eff.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:45:57 +0000 (UTC) From: gartmann@nonsense.immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann) Subject: Re: USPS (Unbelievably Sl-o-o-o-w Postal Service) Message-ID: In article , "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" writes: >On Jul 12, 3:38 pm, gartm...@nonsense.immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph >Gartmann) wrote: > >> Had a package from "Thief River Falls, MN" to Freiburg in Germany make it >> within 30 hours. Shipping cost was US$18 ;-) > >Digi-Key? They probably ship enough so they know how to do it right. Exactly. Regards, Christoph Gartmann -- Max-Planck-Institut fuer Phone : +49-761-5108-464 Fax: -452 Immunbiologie Postfach 1169 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de D-79011 Freiburg, Germany http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.389 ************************