Article 125737 of comp.os.vms: Path: nntpd.lkg.dec.com!crl.dec.com!crl.dec.com!caen!reeve.research.aa.wl.com!decwrl!nntp.crl.com!pacbell.com!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!mvb.saic.com!info-vax From: Jim Kirkpatrick Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: Why is MAIL.MAI a placed file ? Message-ID: <01HTBZ6LPSO2001I44@PLAINS.UWYO.EDU> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 16:28:39 -0600 (MDT) Organization: Info-Vax<==>Comp.Os.Vms Gateway X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List Lines: 23 In article <3v3arc$no6@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>, mueller@axp612.gsi.de (W.F.J.Mueller) writes: > My question: Why on earth is MAIL.MAI a placed file ?? What could possibly > break if it's moved ?? If I backup and restore it with BACKUP > this file attribute gets lost and everything works fine ! > Is this a bug in VMSmail ? I corresponded with Digital on this topic, and my recollection is that this was a bad methodology in RMS (though Terry's assertion of a bug in CONVERT may also be true). Apparently, at some point in RMS, when it's decided to extend the file, RMS calls a routine to do so. The routine signals success by setting the placed bit in the header, which the "upper" layer reads and then goes on with its task, whatever that was. Nowhere does this placed bit get cleared. Sloppy. I also griped that DFO (or should I call it PFO, Polycenter File Optimizer? :-) makes no comment whatever when it skips a placed file. This was a few years ago. You can guess how much progress Digital has made on these issues. (hint: zero) Jim