From: US2RMC::"paul_koning@isd.3com.com" "Paul Koning" 7-MAY-1996 15:40:57.32 To: star::everhart CC: Subj: Re: Rollin Hi... Spotted your message in vmsnet.pdp-11 on Rollin. As a former RSTS implementer, I can add a bit. I didn't see much else on this discussion, and I'm not on the mailing list itself (found the note via AltaVista). You might pass this note on if it contains something that wasn't already mentioned. First of all (I did see this elsewhere) Rollin was used by RSTS prior to V5B. It could backup RF11, RK05, or RP02/03 to either disk or tape (including DECtape, fun...). As far as I remember, tbose tape backups were bootable, so the magtape backup should look as follows: 1. DOS format tape file label (14 bytes) 2. Image of Rollin all in one tape block 3. Backup data, raw disk dump of the whole disk Rollin didn't know anything about file structure, so if you take a straigth restore of the dump blocks you end up with a disk image file. Then you can manipulate that with whatever tools you like. If the backup is of a RSTS disk, you can use Rstsflx, which I wrote (available at update.uu.se in /pub/pdp11/rsts/utils). paul -- !----------------------------------------------------------------------- ! Paul Koning, NI1D, C-24183 ! 3Com Corporation, 1-3A, 118 Turnpike Road, Southborough MA 01772 USA ! phone: +1 508 229 1695, fax: +1 508 490 5873 ! email: paul_koning@isd.3com.com or paul_koning@3mail.3com.com ! Pgp: 27 81 A9 73 A6 0B B3 BE 18 A3 BF DD 1A 59 51 75 !----------------------------------------------------------------------- ! "The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over ! any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent ! harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not ! a sufficient warrant." -- John Stuart Mill, "On Liberty" 1859 % ====== Internet headers and postmarks (see DECWRL::GATEWAY.DOC) ====== % Received: from mail11.digital.com by us2rmc.zko.dec.com (5.65/rmc-22feb94) id AA25876; Tue, 7 May 96 15:30:55 -040 % Received: from ISD.3Com.com by mail11.digital.com (8.7.5/UNX 1.2/1.0/WV) id PAA29633; Tue, 7 May 1996 15:27:05 -0400 (EDT % Received: from atmguru (atmguru.chipcom.com) by ISD.3Com.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA15115; Tue, 7 May 96 15:25:09 ED % Sender: pkoning@isd.3com.com % Message-Id: <318FA397.EC6@isd.3com.com> % Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 15:25:11 -0400 % From: Paul Koning % Organization: isd.3com.com % X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) % Mime-Version: 1.0 % To: star::everhart % Subject: Re: Rollin % X-Url: http://ww2.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/news?msg@725@vmsnet%2epdp%2d11 % Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii % Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit